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This post was originally written back in 2018 and shared by Mary A. LaClair. Mary has invited me to join, as an author, The Proverbs 1:20 Column. It seems a good time to once again share some of the thoughts written about the church and what God may be saying to the church today.
I attended an event this past Sunday. In my heart of hearts I really believed that there would be a move of God on that day. I reached out to churches and groups and church leaders and those with giftings and abilities to attend the event with me. I was hurt and bewildered why some with a calling on their life couldn’t see the potential in this opportunity to reach thousands of people and hundreds of children. Church leaders and evangelists and Prophets all told me this was for me. I didn’t understand at the time.
At the event there was a bear, a living breathing creation of God. The Game Commission had trapped it. This bear, when it was brought out of the trap had a problem. It had mange. Now mange is a little mite that gets on the bear and causes the bear some problems. For this bear the little mite had caused it to lose hair on the bear’s face and shoulder. It also caused the bear to be underweight for its age. Because of the mite the Game Commission would not let anyone touch the bear so that this mite would not spread to people.
As I look back on that day, I am reflecting on what I learned. I believe it was a day that the Holy Spirit would have something to say. Perhaps He did and I was there to get the message.
As I looked on the bear, God’s creation, it brought tears to my eyes. To look at one of the creatures the Lord put here on the earth. As I looked at the body of the bear, I could see its claws, I could see its shape, its fur, its eyes, since it was sedated I was unable to see its strength but I know a bear can be powerful. Yet I could see the effects of the mange, how one little thing could affect the whole bear and since the bears own body was fighting against the little mite, the appearance of the bear showed the battle.
As I think about the body of the bear I reflect on the body of Christ, the church. Are we as strong as we could be? Are we as full grown as we ought to be? Are we as powerful as we should be? What battles are we fighting? Are we fighting the things that are in us and on us that are preventing us from growing into the powerful body the Lord has called us to be?
Reflect on this a little and consider what the Lord might speak to you through this.
A PASTOR’S REPLY – name withheld
The truth will not set us free? It is the truth that we know, Jesus said the truth you know shall set you free. Until you know truth, that truth cannot set you free. Below are just three examples of that truth:
Regarding the bear, it is symbolic of the church. See the church has been shot with a dart from the devil, just like the tranquilizer. Why was the bear shot? Because he was sick.
THE CHURCH TODAY IS SICK. IT HAS LET, PERMITTED THE LIES, AND FALSE TEACHINGS TO CREEP IN AND GIVE GROUND TO THE ENEMY.
THE CHURCH ” SHOULD BE ” big like the bear, strong, bold, and beautiful……………………… now it has let a little leaven, leaven the whole lump………………..the leaven of the Pharisees has crept in, little by little lie after lie.
Why do people accept lies, strain at gnats, while swallowing camel loads of sin? That bear is symbolic of the state of the church today, it needs to be healed, arise in its strength, and prepare for what is about to happen. Why were there so few that supported the event? That is the issue with the church today. They just want to support themselves, I, me, and mine. ME my four and no more! They will say they want to support others, but all the while they just want to steal from other ministries…………….. or because of the fear of someone stealing theirs they do not support others. The church like the bear is sick right now and needs a great awakening.
Thanks for thinking of me, I hope this helps ……………. this is what came to me exactly as I read it from you !
Here is a Post Script that I wrote that seems appropriate shared with the original post.
This morning I had one of those “moments” to laugh at myself. I went outside to get the morning paper and saw a spider web on the side of my porch. I went inside and got the broom and swept away the spider web and while getting rid of that web, I saw another and another….. I laughed at myself, here I am getting rid of spider webs and hopefully the spiders and I look down the street and my neighbor has their front yard all decorated with large spider webs and big spiders! I thought to myself – I could give you some REAL spiders and webs! Made me think of the scripture from Isaiah 5:20 “Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
This morning so many thoughts are running through my mind. I have heard so many testimonies about what people were and what they did but my mind is drawn to the one who is greater, the one who forgives, the one who has carried me through so many storms and been there in both the good times and the hard ones.
I hear people tell about who they were and what they did but my mind runs to the thoughts of but what have you done lately? Where does the Lord get the glory for the change, the healing, the repentance, the hope, the future?
We live in a world where evil does exist and I could detail so much of it to you but what would that do or solve? We also live in a world where hope abounds, healing exists, plans are designed and futures are laid out. I know there is a mansion waiting for me!
I’m thankful for eyes to see and ears to hear. Especially thankful for those words I’ve heard and the direction I have been given, grateful for the hearing of soft whispers and knowledge that I am loved.
I’ve seen those that have been healed and I know of those who weren’t. I’ve seen struggles and seen things work out, things come together and things fall apart. I understand now why the scripture says that life is but a vapor because the years go by so quickly and I’ve seen those who didn’t get many years and others who seemed to get too many.
I’m thankful for wisdom, though I struggle to obtain it. I’m thankful for peace although it is not always part of the plan. I’m thankful for truth because I have met the truth and he lives in me. I’m thankful for today, not because I have a plan but because I know the one who does.
This all comes to me today as a challenge because I know the one who holds the future and yet so many have never had a relationship with the one who holds eternity in his hands.
It only brings to mind that forever is a long time for those who haven’t met the one who holds it.
Life isn’t easy and trials and hardships come along the way. So do blessings and hope and joy and peace. Eternity is forever and that is what I am planning on, spending eternity with the one who holds today in his hand.
A FOUNDATION ROCK OF THE CHURCH: IS IT PETER OR PAUL?
Why is Peter called the rock upon which the R.C. church is built?
2,175 words. + 250 of supporting Scriptures By – Mary A. LaClair
Peter denied Christ three times, after vowing he never would. He shifted like sand. You don’t build on sand; you build on bed-rock. It is, however the statement which Peter made, his God-given thoughts, it is the fact of those thoughts, to which Jesus referred when He said He will build His church. Notice this: He said that HE, Jesus, will build His church, not that Peter would build His church.
The word catholicwith lower case “c”: – (adverb) means:, universal, all encompassing: i.e. catholic tastes in music
Catholic with a capital “C”: – is commonly used as a proper noun for the Roman Catholic Church, or a member thereof
R.C. : – Roman Catholic
THIS: – the word ‘this’ is never used as a personal pronoun,. It is an adjective usually modifying a noun
YOU: – the word ‘you’ has no plural form in English. It is both singular and collective, as in members of a group. i.e. as carpenters you know how to use tools…. ‘You’ refers to the group and to each individual in the group
(humor): the word YOU has no plural – Except in the southernmost states of the US where they use the colloquialism of ‘ya’ll come’ meaning ‘you all come, everyone come, without limitation, to our BB-Q’ YOU is collective, meaning a group and everyone within that group
“Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, He was asking His disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?” And they said, “Some say John the Baptist; and others, Elijah; but still others, Jeremiah, or one of the prophets.” He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. I also say to you that you are 1aPeter, and upon THIS (2)rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven.” Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ.” NASU (bold underline mine for emphasis)
Here, the footnote 1a at Peter says that the Greek says Peter (Petros) means ‘stone’ small stone, a piece of rock. While footnote “2” says something different.
It was when Peter made the statement of “Thou Art The Christ” that Jesus said, “Flesh and blood did not reveal this to you but My Father who Is in heaven” “Upon this rock” ( foot-note 2 says the Greek word rock here is: foundation, bed-rock;) “I will build my church” Jesus did not say ‘upon you I will build my church’.
Notice also that He calls the church HIS church, not Peter’s church.
Peter was Simon but here Jesus changes his name to Peter. Petros:
Using the Greek-Hebrew Dictionary:
In tracing the meaning of the word Petros, used for Peter, the meaning is ‘A PIECE OF ROCK.”
In tracing the meaning of Cephas, (Kephas) it lists the surname of Peter and compares it to (Keph) a hollow rock and (to Kaphaph ) to curve.
Petros: a piece of a rock larger than a stumbling stone, as a name Petrus the apostle, and compares to NT reference where Jesus actually calls Peter a stumbling stone. This is Peter
In tracing the meaning of the word Petra, its meaning is A MASS OF ROCK,(LITERALLY OR FIGURATIVELY) This is Jesus.
If PETRA is a mass of rock; and if PETROS is a piece of rock; might one be able to say: Peter was/is “a chip off the old block” ?? (smile)
The further words of ‘hollow’ and ‘curved’ connected to keph or Cephas are thought provoking: Peter’s denial may be considered ‘hollow’. He threw a curve ball.
If built upon Peter, Peter denied Christ three times, after vowing he never would. He shifted like sand. His denial was hollow because he didn’t really mean what he said at the time.
Peter was weak – Jesus called him Satan, that is a weak foundation. Jesus knew all that ahead of time. You don’t build on sand, you build on bed-rock.
It is, however, the statement Peter made, his God-given thoughts: it is the fact of those thoughts to which Jesus referred which are the foundation upon which the church is built and is still being built.
He said to them, “But who do you say that I am? Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Barjona, because flesh and blood did not reveal thisto you, but My Father who is in heaven. I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon THIS (2) rock I will build My church; .. NASU (underline emphasis mine)
The word THIS is used to point to objects, used alone it is never a synonym for a person.
One is correct in knowing that the statement is the actual foundation, with Christ the Cornerstone, and that is true. Therefore, it may seem strange that Jesus commanded them to tell no one that He is the Christ. Why? Because personal revelation from the Father, like Peter had, is the foundation which God wants – a personal relationship with the Father and the Son.
If one still wishes to say that Jesus says Peter is the foundation for the Roman Catholic Church, then we owe it to ourselves to continue reading a few verses down where Jesus turns right around and then calls Peter Satan. Ouch ! Some foundation on which to build a church, huh?
“Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, “God forbid it, Lord! This shall never happen to You.” But He turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on God’s interests, but man’s.” NASU
Paul, because of his writing, not Peter, has done more to build a church founded on these statements and the Gospel than Peter had done. God’s Church is built upon the Gospel. Since Jesus had not yet died and paid the price for us Peter did not have the Gospel at that time, Without the Gospel, there is no church.
The keys are given to the church to which He referred, which He was establishing, which He is still building today. ‘You’, in this instance, refers back to a church made up of people, plural. In English, the word ‘you’ is both singular and collective, there is no plural. You and I are a part of that collective YOU to which Jesus refers. In this universal church, you and I are also keeper of those keys, if we are part of His church.
…I am going to give “YOU”, the collective body of the church which I am herewith establishing, keys to the kingdom. In other words, kingdom keys, to the collective body, the church, made up of the people who have received the personal revelation of God, like you have just received, Peter…
After the Resurrection, after the Gospel had been completed, Paul, to whom the Father also personally revealed Jesus as the Christ, wrote most of the New Testament. If a man, in conjunction with Jesus and Holy Spirit, were to start building the church on something, it stands to reason that that man would be Paul, not Peter.
The New Testament is also stone on the foundation, with Jesus Christ revealed in it as the Chief Cornerstone. This is the solid foundation upon which Paul, and we as his disciples, build. Peter IS a stone in the building of the universal Church, which is the body, with Christ as the Head. Peter was restored after his mistakes, as are we! Restoration is part of the church. Peter is not to be scorned: People received healing in Peter’s shadow. Acts 5:15
Peter might be a colorful rock in the building. He certainly was a colorful guyl!
And I pay Peter a compliment in this way!
Build on this? No.
Build on this? Yes.
“… in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.” – NASU
We are stones and rocks to be put in the building on the Foundation. Maybe some of you are colorful too?
It is not ironic that as Peter wrote the book of 1st Peter, he used the word ‘stones’ to identify fellowfollowers. . . :
1 Peter 2:4-7 AS LIVING STONES
“And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For this is contained in Scripture:
“Behold, I Lay In Zion A Choice Stone, A Precious Corner Stone, And He Who Believes In Him Will Not Be Disappointed.” (Is 28:16)
This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, “The Stone Which The Builders Rejected,This Became The Very Corner Stone “ ,(Ps 118:22)
And, A Stone Of Stumbling And A Rock Of Offense”;(Is 8:14) for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed.” – NASU
“At the hands of the apostles many signs and wonders were taking place among the people; and they were all with one accord in Solomon’s portico. But none of the rest dared to associate with them; however, the people held them in high esteem. And all the more believers in the Lord, multitudes of men and women, were constantly added to their number, to such an extent that they even carried the sick out into the streets and laid them on cots and pallets, so that when Peter came by at least his shadow might fall on any one of them. Also the people from the cities in the vicinity of Jerusalem were coming together, bringing people who were sick or afflicted with unclean spirits, and they were all being healed”. NASU
This is a picture of what should be happening in the universal church today. And I believe we are in the advent of seeing it restored once again.
Is Peter the rock, or is Jesus the Rock? – Upon which is the universal church built?
Jesus tells us He Himself is the Rock. Many times throughout Scripture “rock” with the capital “R” signifies that Jesus Himself is the Rock upon which the universal church is built.
Concerning the Roman Catholic Church, who has claimed the word ‘catholic’ for themselves, placing Peter as the head of that church, let some things be re-considered:
The statement that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God companioned with the fact ‘that flesh and blood did not reveal THIS to you but My Father who is in heaven…’
…this is the THIS upon which His universal church is built. The word “THIS” is not a synonym for a man as He did not say ‘upon you’; He said ‘upon this’. Believe it or not, isn’t it true that the church (spiritual building) IS made up of the people (stones) to whom God has personally revealed Himself? How lucky and blessed we are! …And, we, ourselves, you and I, continue to build with that foundation ! Like Peter, as repentant sinners we are also stones put upon a Rock solid foundation; the Rock being Christ Jesus, the personal knowing of Christ Jesus making us a part of the building on that Rock. Praise the Lord !
If you don’t yet have that kind of personal relationship with Lord Jesus, you can. He is risen from the dead and He is alive and His Spirit is in the world today. Just start talking to Him. Better yet, ask Him into your heart. Say, “Lord Jesus, thank you for forgiving me, please reveal yourself to me and come into my heart I want to see things the way you see them, help me to be all that you want me to be. Bring the right people into my life who know you and who can help me to know you better. Thank you, Jesus. Amen.”
Had Christ intended to describe Peter, all He needed to say was: You are Peter and on you I will build My Church.
But He didn’t say that.
1 Cor 10:1-5
1 Cor 10:1-5
I want you to know, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same supernatural food and all drank the same supernatural drink. For they drank from the supernatural Rock which followed them, and the Rock was Christ. Nevertheless with most of them God was not pleased; for they were overthrown in the wilderness. RSV
The Rock! His work is perfect For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He. NASU
“But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked —You are grown fat, thick, and sleek —Then he forsook God who made him, And scorned the Rock of his salvation. NASU
“You neglected the Rock who begot you, And forgot the God who gave you birth. NASU
“How could one chase a thousand, And two put ten thousand to flight, Unless their Rock had sold them, And the Lord had given them up? NASU
“Indeed their Rock is not like our Rock, Even our enemies themselves judge this. NASU
Further Scriptures on Jesus as the Rock:
Is. 44:8; 17:10; 30:29; 26:4; 46:4;
Hab 1:12; 2
1 Sam 23:28;
Deut 32:31; 32:30; 32:18;32:15; 32:4
Now, Who is the Rock
Is it Peter or
Is it Jesus !
On which rock, Rock, would YOU build ? On a fragment, or bed-rock?
Just have some little talks with Jesus, He’d love to hear from YOU !
“Who is that important man standing at the foot of my bed? He looks very important! Oh, look! He even has ambassadors with him!
“He looks Jewish,. maybe he looks Irish….does he look Irish? No. He looks Jewish! He is a very important person.”
It was the middle of the night. The lady was in a hospital bed, in an extended care unit. She was Irish. And this lady was quite proud of her Irish heritage.
I was there at her bedside this night and several nights. A plea came through the pulpit, from a well known, well respected local senior attorney, who also happens to be Irish.
Turning to the bed, I hear the lovely delicate lady asking who her visitors are. It must be 1:30 A.M or thereabouts. She is mostly talking to herself since she is totally deaf and can’t hear even if I answer. I sit quietly and listen. I do not want to interrupt her reverie. I make no effort to put the lights on to use the pen and pad. She is absolutely seeing visitors, visitors that I was not seeing. Yet, I sensed peace in the room.
“They are important men. Well, one is more important. He has well-dressed men with him. He looks Irish. No… He looks Jewish, No, he must be Irish, and has important men with him, they must be ambassadors. He is Jewish I think. They are very important. They came to see me and are standing in a group here at the foot of my bed. They are very important.”
I sit quietly in a chair by the window. I know it must be Jesus Who is here to see her. I know my Friend Jesus is in the room with us. She had been reliving some moments from the past earlier in the evening. I remain quiet while He has His moments with her.
The earlier call from the pulpit was “We’re looking for volunteer to sit by a lady’s bedside all night long, from 7 p.m. to 7 or 9 a.m. and report back. Different family members sit with her during the days, but they feel they need someone to sit nights.” the Pastor said. The dear lady was complaining about bad happenings during the night hours.
The first night at the unit was uneventful. The family met me and asked me to write everything down and I was provided with a steno-pad and pen.
The lady was there to heal from a broken hip. She was uncomfortable quite a bit but was able to get periods of light rest and some sleep granting her intermittent relief from her pain. The second night, when she was peacefully sleeping, some nurses or aids came in to weigh her. I told them that now was NOT a good time to do that, the poor lady was getting some needed peace and rest. The aids seemed firm that it had to be done. I was equally firm that they would NOT wake her from rest. They came back when she was awake and I watched the process of getting her into a sling. This caused her considerable pain and she cried out. The family found out what the bad night problems were and they put a total stop to it.
On the notepad, I document the events for the family. In the note I ask them to please relate to their Mother Who I thought had visited her in the night. I don’t know if they did.
She slept peacefully the next night.
After that, the family gave me an envelope with a monetary thank you saying that I wouldn’t be needed any more. They, through their family physician, had ended uncomfortable night weigh-ins and solved the mystery of the ‘bad happenings’ in the middle of the night. They were grateful. I have been told that the hospital has since changed their policy on weigh in procedures.
I would like to think that the family was also comforted by the fact that Jesus knew where their Mother was and that He had made a special heavenly visit to her room.
The third night I was there, I remember looking out the window seeing a blinding blizzard. Snow was blowing sideways, swirling around in circles, absolutely filling the cold night March air with rioting curtains of white. Visibility was nil. All one could see were curtains of white blowing all which ways. One could not see through these ‘billowing curtains’. I made a special note of thanking the Lord that my family was all safe. Little did I know that that very night my son was on the road to the hospital in this blinding storm, with his wife who was about to give birth, and that I would see the baby in that same hospital before I left that day shortly after dawn.
God is in the details of our lives, especially during tough times. As I was leaving the hospital shortly past dawn that day, I had received the unexpected message that my son and daughter-in-law had made it to the maternity ward in time for the delivery of their third child. I found that unit just as the baby was born. What I was not aware of, was the harrowing time they had driving through that blinding blizzard where visibility was practically zero. My son admitted to his many prayers on the journey into the city over lonely snow deep drifting country roads in the middle of the night where he could hardly tell where the road was. At the next turn, a snowplow appeared in front of them! They were able to make it to the main road.
God is in the details of our lives often when we are least aware. He had a believer in the room with the elderly lady, one whom respected the heavenly visitation, He had an angel on a snowplow, and He timed a baby’s delivery that night. Did angels from a hospital room in the city move swiftly to a snowplow in the country miles away? Do you think a son’s prayers combined with unknown concurring prayers of thanksgiving from an unaware Mother contributed to the appearance of angels on the road that night?
There was a commotion amongst the people of the city..
“What is all this commotion about?”
“People are saying there are strange happenings in the sky outside and are rushing outside to see.”
Being already outside, I look up. The people who have left the buildings are grouped outside, standing looking up at the sky.
“Well, yes,” they say, “ this IS unusual. The cloud formations are quite unique, never seen anything like this before. It is a beautiful day, but I’ve seen enough. We will probably read about it in the papers tomorrow. We have other things to do.” And they start back inside.
“WAIT,” I say. “Look, don’t you see? The clouds are moving in formations and they are shaping something.
“Yeah, we see that. We have to get back to work. You can stay outside if you like.”
“But don’t you see, this means something! The moving and blowing clouds are continually shaping into what looks like wedding decorations. They resemble beautiful decorations of a wedding cake. Don’t you see what this means? Don’t you know what is happening, and what this means?”
“Stand there as long as you like, we’re going back inside.”
I stand outside awhile, soaking it all in. I feel different. I feel joy – anticipatory joy is soaking all through me.
They go back inside to their darkness. I walk home in the light. This vision ended there.
I study Holy Scriptures more now and with a new hunger.
Things I saw before seem to come alive with newness.
SEVERAL YEARS LATER: VISION #2
In a vision, I am outside in my own side yard and become aware of a happening in the sky again. This time I see some people in flowing robes floating upwards here and there. Looking around, I see the numbers growing, as the air space is large. I seem to sense, or do I actually see, a very large image-like figure of a polite but powerful personage higher up. This figure is emitting an aura of welcoming.
I feel as though my feet are glued to the ground as these people float past me.
“Can I come, too?”
“Look down, Little One…”
Looking down, I see the ground becoming further and further away as I float with them!
This vision closed with that… so I guess it is …to be continued… at a time of His choosing. selah…
As good spiritual appetizers .. one might wish to savor these things… …
Brothers, we do not want you to be ignorant about those who fall asleep, or to grieve like the rest of men, who have no hope. We believe that Jesus died and rose again and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. According to the Lord’s own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage each other with these words. NIV
1 Thess 5:4-7
But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled. NIV
I was quietly dusting the house with nothing particular on my mind at the moment except how to get the dust out from under a bookshelf. When:
BOOM! God spoke!
“Women are submitting to things on the marriage bed to which they have no business submitting — and I will hold them each responsible.” (Wow, where did that come from?!)
His Voice seemed so audible that I turned around to see if someone had entered the room.
Testing the spirits I responded with Scripture:
“But Scripture says that the marriage bed will not be defiled.”
With a disappointed sideways glance behind Him, which I saw in the spirit, BOOM — God said:
“Yes, I said it WILL not be defiled. You are a mother. When you tell a child that they WILL NOT go outside today, it does not mean that the child is physically unable to go outside. It means that it carries with it an, as yet, undisclosed consequence. I am even more upset when I see it happening in my church. I cannot clean up the world until I first clean up my church. I am angry and I am getting ready to act.”
I saw in the spirit, God the Father sitting on a huge cloud-white throne, so large that the earth really IS His footstool. He was leaning forward, with His Hands pushing on the arms of the Throne, getting ready to arise.
I carried this message in my heart, yet still asking God for confirmation. It wasn’t long when a radio call-in show had a young girl asking if she had to submit to things which her husband was demanding. The husband used the Scripture that wives were to submit to husbands. The immorality he forced her into was obviously against God, decency and law. God sees this and more. He is Angry and He is letting us know.
Further revelations that women are NOT to always submit to husbands are found in God’s treatment of Ananias and Sapphira. They were a couple obeying each other in marriage’s mutual submission to each other– and to a lie. Separate from each other, they were each given an individual opportunity to repent. Neither betrayed the other, neither confessed, neither repented. Separately, they were each struck dead, one after the other. And this is New Testament. So much for mutual submission in that marriage. That consequence was severe. Acts 5:1-11
Then we have Adam and Eve, husband and wife, in the Old Testament. Likewise, they agreed in mutual submission. God did NOT honor that mutual submission either. That consequence was severe, even affecting their offspring, (us), and who knows, maybe even Cain and Able.
I know, tough stuff, right?
Bottom line: We are to submit to God, not to man. Women, your husbands are NOT God, no matter how hard they may try to convince you.
The Old Testament and New Testament confirm each other regarding improper submission in marriage. He has proven that He will hold each equally responsible. I think that means PAY ATTENTION.
Common Sense: Unrestrained passion leads to perversion. Perversion leads to pandemonium and all manner of sin unrestricted.
God never calls man the ‘boss’. He calls him ‘leader’. Leaders lead from the front, giving us a choice whether to follow or not to follow. Bosses do not. Bosses drive from behind, usually with a whip. Freedom always contains the freedom to say “No.”
Ok, what about God loving the sinner but hating the sin? Think on this: God doesn’t send sin to hell, he sends sinners to hell because of personal choices made. Tough stuff. So, what is a sexual sin in marriage one might rightly ask? The Bible has instructions for proper sex life, after all He created it. An example of proper sex life might be found in the SONG OF SOLOMON.
An example of improper sex life? Well – regardless of gender, sodomy is a sin, simply because sin is not a person but an action. God hates the sin, the action, not the persons. But He punishes the person who chooses the sin. We should be careful of actions because we will be judged by our actions. May we be clean in thought, word, action and deeds. Old Testament and New Testament also agree on these things.
It is quite easy for church-goers to be mis-led by non-Christians who attempt to quote and ultimately mis-apply Scripture. This is just what the devil did to Jesus in the temptation in the dessert; so, why should we ourselves be exempt? We know that Jesus threw the devil off by answering with Scripture – Scripture vs Scripture one might say.
Therefore, it would be good, with the help of the Holy Spirit, to study the Holy Scriptures. It helps if we personally know the Author – otherwise it is a locked book. So ask for His help before reading and studying.
Jesus is alive and in the world today. Talk to Him.
I realize there may be a few men who may wish to disagree and won’t like this; but remember, the man does not get off the hook in any way. God said He would hold them each responsible. The woman does not get off the hook in any way.
Notice the importance of self-control for America in the second stanza of AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL:
Do we get that part? CONFRIM OUR SOUL IN SELF CONTROL, in what? In SELF CONTROL! Self-control necessarily has restraints; and OUR LIBERTY IN LAW Law has RESTRICTIONS. Therefore liberty has restrictions. No restrictions, no law . Law is meant to protect us.
But, lest you get rebellious or hopeless to these thoughts; let me say that Tony Evans has a way of understanding which he explains well: REVERSING SEXUAL CONSEQUENCES
look for date Jan 26,2021 REVERSING SEXUAL CONSEQUENCES
listen through to the end — for:
“If MY people, who are called by MY Name will……turn from THEIR wicked ways….I will hear from Heaven and heal THEIR land….”
It matters what God thinks.
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Outlining other ‘wicked ways’ of the church may be found here under the topic JUDGING and under MIS-PLACED COMPASSION; another under NOT LETTING NON-CHRISTIANS DEFINE OR ATTEMPT TO RE-DEFINE CHRISTIANITY. Happy reading !
I.e. How ‘judge not’ is killing America and is actually an over-reaching sin in the church (we are to be salt and light – God spits out the ‘lukewarm’.)
i.e. How mis-placed compassion is killing America and can be an over-reaching sin in the church. Mis-directed compassion creates lukewarm-ness and can welcome the darkness to which we are to be light.